Jon team up with Matt Backlas to talk about dreams (good and bad, loud and silent) american radio qualities, futuristic classic rock, well hidden top 10 maiden-riffs. drowning versus parachutless sky-diving, (good) short stories and off-putting GPS voices over TikTok-reels.

But. primarily still, the lads talk about this lil' jewel on the PoM b-side, and will continue to do so in part 2 within the near future.

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